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tom_moir
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New Zealand
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Posted - Jan 09 2009 :  20:26:30  Show Profile  Visit tom_moir's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wish I could program like you guys! Such a professional looking design too.Did you program the email stuff from scratch or are you using off the shelf dlls?


Tom
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giannis
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Posted - Jan 10 2009 :  14:34:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes it looks fantastic! I think secretaries of the world should watch out for Guile and his VH becuase sooner or later they will be obsolete in the market.

Guile you are saying

For direct dictation using Microsoft engine I have 70 to 90% of accuracy. With Nuance Dragon I can reach more than 90% with previous voice training.

May i ask if for Ms dictation you are using grammars and voice training?
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hicks
Curious Member



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Posted - Jan 10 2009 :  21:00:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello!
I'm using CyberBuddy but this is more intereting!

where I can download Universal Virtual Human Interface?
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Guile3D
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USA
661 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  12:09:30  Show Profile  Visit Guile3D's Homepage  Click to see Guile3D's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tom_moir

Wish I could program like you guys! Such a professional looking design too.Did you program the email stuff from scratch or are you using off the shelf dlls?

Tom



Thanks Tom. We´ve started the e-mail function using http://www.chilkatsoft.com/email-activex.asp component, but because this has some issues with Vista we decided to code our own .DLLs.

Actually, one of the reasons of our delay to release Denise is because we are coding almost all core .dlls with our own tech. This is good because we are not stuck with 3rd part vendors that sometimes vanish from one day to another.


Guile 3D Studio
http://www.guile3d.com
"Where reality meets Imagination"

Edited by - Guile3D on Jan 12 2009 12:17:38
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Guile3D
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USA
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Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  12:15:09  Show Profile  Visit Guile3D's Homepage  Click to see Guile3D's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by giannis

Yes it looks fantastic! I think secretaries of the world should watch out for Guile and his VH becuase sooner or later they will be obsolete in the market.

Guile you are saying

For direct dictation using Microsoft engine I have 70 to 90% of accuracy. With Nuance Dragon I can reach more than 90% with previous voice training.

May i ask if for Ms dictation you are using grammars and voice training?



Giannis, yes, we´re using grammars´ xml files for voice command control, with no previous training. With English we can have almost 100% accuracy using just Microsoft tech. For other languages like Portuguese and Spanish we have something as 85 to 90% accuracy, since we have to use Nuance´s SDK, that is not as accurate as in English, and because Microsoft doesn´t offer SR support for other languages besides English, French and Japanese.

Guile 3D Studio
http://www.guile3d.com
"Where reality meets Imagination"
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Guile3D
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USA
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Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  12:19:33  Show Profile  Visit Guile3D's Homepage  Click to see Guile3D's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hicks

hello!
I'm using CyberBuddy but this is more intereting!

where I can download Universal Virtual Human Interface?



Hi hicks. Thanks for being here with us. Our software is still in development stage, and we´re doing our best to release it as soon as possible.

Guile 3D Studio
http://www.guile3d.com
"Where reality meets Imagination"
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Dante
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220 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  12:33:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hicks, we're doing everything in our power to make sure Guile gives us the best thing since sliced bread ;)


The hand that rocks the AI cradle, may well rule the world.
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hicks
Curious Member



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Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  18:31:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the answers! :)
I will be waiting!
I'm spanish but I will be training my english pronunciation in the meanwhile heheh! ;D
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tom_moir
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New Zealand
144 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  20:33:35  Show Profile  Visit tom_moir's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've uploaded a slightly later version of the Massey speech Project. it's still quite at a basic level because I am was using some bought dlls that I cannot give away (for email I use Mailbee which works fine but I only have 1 license). Programming your own email from scratch is not that pleasant as I am sure Guile will agree with and takes lots of time.

I use Guiles Melissa which you can download from his web-site for free - or include any similar MS Agent (though there are none as good as Guiles ones).

http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tjmoir/speech.html

You will need to compile the source - but it should run fine. Best to include SAPI 6.1 (see web page).
My programming is getting a bit better with time. I have spent most of the last 7 years or so programming in Data-Flow using so-called "G" code (labView) for signal processing and so this sort of stuff was outside of my comfort zone!

One thing I did on my latest version (not on the web page because it uses a purchased dll for image processing) is to get a camera to track movement. This can be really good but is limited at present since Nicole can only move her head left and right and not in-between (which Denise can I think). I will be putting similar software on a robot at the foyer here in Auckland. Any of our Engineering students reading this - we need some help - can be a good project! You can use Direct Show to program a web-cam (for .Net) - not too difficult but is time-consuming.

The present version on teh web page can search for files, play music and videos, read the news and weather (sort of - the weather needs some more parsing). It hasn't got the Alice engine in or X10 dlls. I spent weeks working on X10 and in the end ended up using somebody elses free dll which is great.
It should work with 100% accuracy on the Grammar I have - limited vocab again.Anyway, it's something people can have a play with. I assume Guiles work will not be open-source due to the shear amount of work put into it.

Tom
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Dante
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220 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  22:15:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I find that a shame (but I understand), I can only hope the cost of the Interface is not outside my budget

The hand that rocks the AI cradle, may well rule the world.
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The PUNdamentalist
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USA
146 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  23:03:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's the "$64,000 Question" Dante! And did I just give away how ancient I am? But seriously, I've looked at commercial products and they're prohibitively expensive...especially for one on disability, as am I.

And Hicks, I've been drooling for over two years for "Denise"! However, like others have said, for Guile to make her a "Hit...Right out of the box" she's going to have to be "Super Virtual" and not just a series of cheaply "looped" actions. Just ask Mik! His Kari girl has taken years to get the degree of true AI that he's been able to give her. Compared to his, most Chatbots are just cheap imitations, and I don't "Kari" for them.

Finally, Guile, have you had a chance to run Denise through the new ARIA-W3C tests? Windows 7 is supposed to be 100% compliant. BTW, Have you downloaded the Alpha yet? And what about IBM's speech API used in Opera 9.6? I like theirs more than either MS Mary, or Anna, although the parsing still needs some work.

So, just WHEN can we look forward to Denise in Alpha? I'd love to check her out , as would EVERYONE else! Or, will we STILL be "pining" for her next year?

Maranatha,
Ron

AI is no match for NS (Natural Stupidity)
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tom_moir
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New Zealand
144 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  23:07:43  Show Profile  Visit tom_moir's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Ron. I have always had an interest in disabled users for speech recognition. Can you let us know what sorts of things that would be essential for your kind of application? eg would hardware control be essential or email etc

regards

Tom
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Dante
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220 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  23:10:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Opera? As in the web browser? has SPEECH!

Now, why didnt anyone tell me that eariler?


Welcome to the club, Ron, i've spent ages trying to save up to buy an AIBO. :P

Thats kinda why I beleive good AI will come from Linux, really.

I wouldnt bet on Windows 7 being any more back compatiable then XP was with dos.

The hand that rocks the AI cradle, may well rule the world.
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tom_moir
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New Zealand
144 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  23:18:04  Show Profile  Visit tom_moir's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am downloading Windows 7 as I write this. You get a product key that lasts for 1 year. Should be enough time I suppose. It is over 2 Gigs download.They have a thing called Silverlight which means you can interrupt your download. The only reason I want it is to try the speech recognition engine on it.Also MS agent supports SAPI5 too so I can use SAPI 5 voices instead of SAPI 4 with Guiles stuff.

Tom

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The PUNdamentalist
Intrigued Member



USA
146 Posts

Posted - Jan 13 2009 :  00:01:39  Show Profile
Yes, Dante! And Opera-X (ver.10) is supposed to build on that capability, although I haven't as yet installed it. As for Windows7, "I'm not holding my breath" Tom! Microsux, like IBM, is noted for Advanced Research projects that nobody outside Redmond seems to know anything about, or care, for that matter...like Human Computer Interfaces. There is WindowEyes, AIDA, ARIA, W3C apps, etc., rather loosely grouped under Accessibility that have only recently seemed to garner attention from developers, mainly, I believe, due to Redmond/MIT's focus on it. Anyway Tom, we'll see just how far that goes. However, this is probably best discussed in another forum, so I'll leave it up to Vit, as to where he thinks it belongs. I've seen a lot of "Out-of-the-Box" thinking going on in VHF, across multiple diciplines, and quite frankly, "the line gets blurry" sometimes as to what ideas go where in VHF.

Anyway, I'm just glad that Vit has VHF, and I dearly hope it continues. I was really "bummed" when "CastleCops" shut-down. They were a wonderful source for Basic "Down-and-dirty" Research into Computer Security, also another topic.

Sorry Vit, but I "got carried away" here.

Maranatha,
Ron

AI is no match for NS (Natural Stupidity)
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