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toborman
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USA
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Posted - Jan 27 2009 :  23:19:21  Show Profile  Visit toborman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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what is msagent.exe? Where can i find that?


all of the msagent download files can be found on microsoft's site http://www.microsoft.com/MSAgent/. there are five downloads and installations required for Harry to work.

1. msagent core components (includes msagent.exe).
2. language component.
3. selected character.
4. TTS engine.
5. SAPI 4.

http://mindmap.iwarp.com
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toborman
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USA
291 Posts

Posted - Jan 27 2009 :  23:24:09  Show Profile  Visit toborman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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toborman, just an idea, but perhaps put a text field somewhere on your splash screen that descibes the current setup task. That way if someone freezes up, you'll have some idea what is going wrong.


Thanks, I'll see what I can do.

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toborman
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USA
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Posted - Jan 29 2009 :  07:36:21  Show Profile  Visit toborman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Updated Harry available for download from mind map site. Minor bug fixes.

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giannis
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Posted - Jan 30 2009 :  08:04:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is working now! It looks good but i am a bit confused on how Harry actually learns! When I ask or state a phrase harry keeps repeating I do not understand (+ my phrase). Is there perhaps some kind of command that i need to use?
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toborman
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USA
291 Posts

Posted - Jan 31 2009 :  03:22:17  Show Profile  Visit toborman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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It is working now! It looks good but i am a bit confused on how Harry actually learns! When I ask or state a phrase harry keeps repeating I do not understand (+ my phrase). Is there perhaps some kind of command that i need to use?


Harry learns in more than one way. so I recommend that you run the test found at the vhmats site below. this will introduce you to the basic command formats that let Harry learn facts from direct input.

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giannis
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Posted - Jan 31 2009 :  13:02:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried most of the basic learning functions (Giannis is a, etc) but i am still getting the same output no matter what i do (I do not understand + my phrase). Any ideas????
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toborman
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USA
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Posted - Feb 01 2009 :  03:58:55  Show Profile  Visit toborman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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I tried most of the basic learning functions (Giannis is a, etc) but i am still getting the same output no matter what i do (I do not understand + my phrase). Any ideas????


send me your inputs, including the punctuation. I'll check it out.

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giannis
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Posted - Feb 01 2009 :  15:48:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried these inputs. Bo no matter what I am getting the same reply!

Giannis is a human
Describe Giannis

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toborman
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USA
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Posted - Feb 01 2009 :  17:36:43  Show Profile  Visit toborman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Giannis. I believe you are using the enter key instead of the OK button. also you need to end your sentences with a period.

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toborman
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USA
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Posted - Feb 01 2009 :  17:57:21  Show Profile  Visit toborman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Giannis. I believe you are using the enter key instead of the OK button. also you need to end your sentences with a period.


oops, looks like the enter key works. I'll add a task to allow sentences without punctuation.

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giannis
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Posted - Feb 01 2009 :  23:55:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I Had an interesting conversation with Harry. It reminds me a lot my attempt with Cyc. I think if you want to make Harry an actual product you need to:

1) Find some automatic way to feed harry knowledge. The process of adding knowledge from scratch is time consuming. After several inputs Harry can now remember that I am a smart not from the USA human. Adding the knowledge needed of an entire domain that way is an impossible task. Perhaps an API for Wikipedia would do the trick

2) At a later stage some kind of API to allow developers to integrate Harry into their own applications is also desirable.

There are also some bugs in the current version that need fixing!



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toborman
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USA
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Posted - Feb 02 2009 :  04:47:04  Show Profile  Visit toborman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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I Had an interesting conversation with Harry. It reminds me a lot my attempt with Cyc. I think if you want to make Harry an actual product you need to:

1) Find some automatic way to feed harry knowledge. The process of adding knowledge from scratch is time consuming. After several inputs Harry can now remember that I am a smart not from the USA human. Adding the knowledge needed of an entire domain that way is an impossible task. Perhaps an API for Wikipedia would do the trick


I agree. I don't know how to get the data from Wikipedia. I know some of you have this knowledge. Anyone care to share?


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2) At a later stage some kind of API to allow developers to integrate Harry into their own applications is also desirable.


Yes, I'm looking forward to seeing harry integrated with other people's products.

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There are also some bugs in the current version that need fixing!

I'm always looking for bugs to kill. let me know which ones you have encountered, please.


by the way, do the test questions look valid for testing basic intelligence of other ai products?

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giannis
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Posted - Feb 02 2009 :  17:12:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have any knowledge of Wikipedia API. I think Guile is working on something similar. Another idea would be to create some kind of visual enviroment where the user will create a brain for Harry from scratch simply by linking ideas and concepts. For example

Person (Giannis)

Greek
Human
Mammal
Smart

Location(Greece)

country
Athens
Europe

etc etc etc.


As for the bugs here are one

Maria is giannis wife
Maria is from belgium

Describe Maria -- here i get runtime error 3163 the field is too small.......

Ads for the test yes i think it is OK for testing general intelligence of products, but Harry needs to evolve further in order to use the test appropriately.


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toborman
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USA
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Posted - Feb 03 2009 :  02:26:32  Show Profile  Visit toborman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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I don't have any knowledge of Wikipedia API. I think Guile is working on something similar. Another idea would be to create some kind of visual enviroment where the user will create a brain for Harry from scratch simply by linking ideas and concepts. For example

Person (Giannis)

Greek
Human
Mammal
Smart

Location(Greece)

country
Athens
Europe

etc etc etc.

Thanks. I'll look into alternative input modes.

quote:
As for the bugs here are one

Maria is giannis wife
Maria is from belgium

Describe Maria -- here i get runtime error 3163 the field is too small.......


I tried this and got the following results:
Harry said: hello Tom.
Tom said: maria is giannis wife.
Harry said: maria is giannis wife.
Tom said: maria is from belgium.
Harry said: maria is from belgium.
Tom said: describe maria.
Harry said: maria is giannis wife from belgium.

quote:
Ads for the test yes i think it is OK for testing general intelligence of products, but Harry needs to evolve further in order to use the test appropriately.

Did harry fail any of the tests when you ran them?

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giannis
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Posted - Feb 04 2009 :  18:10:40  Show Profile
I tried some of the tests and Harry failed only on the example that I wrote above(maria is giannis wife). I am not sure why it didn't fail in your trials. In any way, i would like to continue testing harry so please send any notifications for any updates on idoumanis at yahoo.gr. I think the first thing in your list should be to elimiate the need for the OK button and the dot at the end of each sentance.

Continue the good work!!!
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