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flikop
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Posted - Sep 30 2009 :  22:26:06  Show Profile  Visit flikop's Homepage
e can divide man-made systems into three broad categories:
They are deterministic systems, behavior of which is strictly predefined by theirs creator. All ancient automatic systems and, up to today fly-by-wire airplanes belongs to this category. These systems are inherently incapable to find solutions to new unforeseen problems.
They are simple self-learning systems, which are capable of finding via input space decomposition previously unknown solutions for the different problems by using problem-resolving algorithms predefined by a system creator. These systems have limited intelligence and they are inherently incapable to find more advance solutions to the problems then can find creator who uses the same algorithms.
They are humanoid systems which can via self-learning generate problem resolving algorithms more efficient than algorithms that can be provided by a system creator. As a result, these systems have potential to find solutions to the problems that system creator is incapable to find. In other words, intelligence of such systems can be superior to the intelligence of a system creator. As an example, we can consider a self-learning process demonstrated by a person who is successfully resolving SuDoku puzzles of constantly increasing difficulty. This person starts this process by using simple puzzle resolving algorithms presented in the beginning of every SuDoku book. However, to be capable to find solutions for puzzles of constantly advanced difficulty without external help he/she has persistently try to find by himself/herself more and more advanced puzzle resolving algorithms. As a result, he/she will eventually demonstrate intelligence superior to the intelligence contained in the suggested in the book algorithms.

In cases when we have more then one self-learning system systems can cooperate as a group by exchanging outcomes of their self-learning and create commonly used database of solutions. It should be noted, that this kind of cooperation could drastically speed up process of evolution of group intelligence.

As we said earlier, systems of a second group cannot exceed intelligence of theirs creator, however, systems of a third group have a potential to do so.

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HologenicKid
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Posted - Aug 22 2011 :  18:06:34  Show Profile
This is the best I have ever seen, read, or heard it put. I belive that all of us on the forum strive for some form of each one.

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DaveMorton
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Posted - Aug 22 2011 :  18:32:43  Show Profile  Visit DaveMorton's Homepage
Hello, HK, and welcome to the forums.

I find it interesting that you should mark your debut to the forums by digging up a long dead post; and while I agree that (in spirit) it's words describe well the three basic systems of automation, I have to cringe when I read that post, because the OP's command of the English language (at least the written form) is quite poor, which makes the post very difficult to read, thus obscuring the meaning to some extent (I don't like to "throw stones" at other folks' work, and no offense is intended here, but I firmly believe and follow the old mantra, "Anything worth doing is worth doing right"). However, that said, I think that enough of the intended meaning comes through to be quite useful.

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hologenicman
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Posted - Aug 24 2011 :  08:20:00  Show Profile  Visit hologenicman's Homepage
I counseled HK per Vittorio's advice to dig through the many archived posts on the forum. There is a wealth of knowledge hidden in the forum.

I have found that this forum does not hold to the concept that old posts need to stay old and hidden. Please feel free to freshen any post that merits your attention, input, and discussion.

Welcome to the forum.

John L>
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DaveMorton
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Posted - Aug 25 2011 :  02:14:22  Show Profile  Visit DaveMorton's Homepage
I think that's a great idea, actually. many are the times where a fresh set of eyes, or a different point of view has generated new insights from old data. Not to mention that revisiting old posts brings the information within to more new members than just the person who revisits them. This thread is actually a case in point. I didn't know about the thread until HK commented on it. Thus, it was "new" to me, as well.

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